On the Scala mailing list the other day, David Pollak and I talked a little bit about these XML-based, Flash-targetting “Rich Internet Application” markup languages that are out now, like Adobe Flex, OpenLaszlo (what a lousy name for a product), etc. David is cooking up stuff to use this stuff in his upcoming framework Mondo from what I hear.
Here is my opinion of these thus far:
- They are usually ugly. Especially OpenLaszlo. Because it appears the people who work on this stuff have no taste, probably it will mangle and maim type even worse than usual on the Internet.
- They are either impossible to make usable or default to highly unusable behavior the way Flash used to. There are many things wrong but, consider the most egregious problems, such as apparently non-resizable type and non-standard scrollbars.
- They take too long to load (maybe this is a special case of (2)), some of them bringing my computer to its knees. Ridiculous.
Now Adobe’s upcoming Apollo project seems to rectify (1). But that appears to default to unusably small type as well. Here is a little video demo of some apps one of the Adobe people has cooked up with Apollo internally.
I conclude from this that all this RIA stuff basically sucks, and we’ll be stuck with <textarea> for a while yet.
Hi, Sho Kuwamoto has also been discussing similar issues recently:
http://kuwamoto.org/2007/02/05/overcoming-design-laziness/
http://kuwamoto.org/2007/02/05/one-of-the-nicests-flex-apps-so-far/
jd/adobe
Comment by John Dowdell — February 6, 2007 @ 2:32 pm |
Well, I’m impressed that apparently Adobe/Macromedia people prowl the blogosphere and take the time to respond to the bitching and moaning of even tiny sites like this one.
I guess it remains to be seen what people will actually do with Flex.
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Comment by AnferTuto — July 28, 2007 @ 12:25 pm |
Why am I the only one being truly attacked for posting negative comments on Flex…?
http://ajaxwidgets.com/Blogs/thomas/7_reasons_not_to_consider_usin.bb
Thomas
Comment by Thomas Hansen — September 5, 2007 @ 12:22 pm |
Great information, thanks for sharing.
Comment by Show My IP — January 5, 2008 @ 5:38 am |
Compared to standard programming technologies, I really want to stick with the stable ones. All these fancy web developing tools are frustrating. Hey why not enhance the old ones instead of the newly introduced Flex and Openlaszlo… especially Openlaszlo!
Comment by loken — June 11, 2008 @ 6:00 pm |
Hey, Warren. This post is just another proof of how limited you are, when it comes to technology. Flex and not stable? OpenLaszlo and not stable? Well, maybe a bit less stable then Flex, but still better than stupid JavaScript hacking. Go and bury yourself in your old technology graveyard.
Comment by The really bad guy — August 20, 2009 @ 3:12 am |